How To Train Your Dragon 2: Family Discussion Guide

Earlier this year, when we started talking about sending Lydia to camp, I knew I’d have to come up with some awesome shtick to make Asa un-sad about being left out of the big camp experience. Somehow we realized that How To Train Your Dragon 2 was coming out semi-close to camp and I decided to save it until that week (because Lydia didn’t want to see it anyway) and while Lydia was camping, we would be immersing ourselves in Dragon Week!

Sounds exciting, right?

I’ll tell you more about our adventures with dragons later but let’s talk about the inspiration for Dragon Week, the new movie How To Train Your Dragon 2. I realize it’s been out for a few weeks so most of you have probably seen it by now. But even if you’ve seen it (especially if you’re planning on owning it), I think you’ll enjoy this discussion guide. This movie had some fabulous nuggets of truth in it.

So many, in fact, Heather and I recorded another episode of Family Movie Moms podcast (a kinda regular series within the God Centered Mom podcast) to talk about how to use this movie to lead your kids to some God-converation.

You can listen to the podcast here. Or simply use your smartphone’s podcast app and search for “God Centered Mom”. Easy peasy. You can save the podcast for later when you’re folding laundry. Let’s get to some specifics now, ok?

family discussion guide for how to train your dragon 2 // ohamanda.com

Previously on How To Train Your Dragon 1:

Hiccup (a scrawny Viking in a town of huge manly Vikings) discovers dragons are not the dangerous man-eating psychopaths the Vikings believe them to be. In fact, they are sweet, gentle and more akin to dogs than anything. He changes the whole town with his new ideas and even restores the relationship with his dad, Stoick, the Viking Chief.

Now. HTTYD2 begins…

Hiccup is 20 years old now (5 years after the first movie) and has really made advances in dragon training. The town makes dragon saddles and has all kinds of dragon-friendly devices. His dad asks him to take his place as chief but Hiccup doesn’t want to do it. He’s conflicted because he doesn’t feel like a chief. He feels unsure of who he is—his only interest is flying his dragon, Toothless around and adding to his handmade map of the world.

But the adventure (and SPOILERS) begins when… 

Hiccup discovers a crew of surly dragon thieves who work for an even creepier guy named Drago. (Creative name, huh?) While Hiccup is investigating these dragon-rounder-uppers, he discovers an ice cave and a masked Dragon Rider who turns out to be his mother. His mother who he’s never known. His mother who he thought died when he was a baby. His mother, who apparently, left him because she liked dragons better.

Soon, Hiccup, his mom and dad and all of Hiccup’s dragon-riding crew unite to fight Drago and his men so they can protect the whole dragon population. (<–there is A LOT more to it than that but, we’ll just stick with that.)

Now, let’s get to a few reasons you might NOT want to see this movie with your kids:

1. The dragons are freaky.

They aren’t grotesque or Lord of the Rings’ Orc-ish, but they aren’t happy little Puff the Magic Dragon, either. There are two heinous dragons called Bewilderbeasts who are the crux of the whole story and culminate in a big fight.

If your kids don’t like scary monsters, or snarling beasts, this probably isn’t the movie for you.

2. The romance lust.

Hiccup and his girlfriend (called his “future-daughter-in-law” by Hiccup’s dad) share a kiss at the end. But as their relationship was mainly as teammates and friends, the kiss was highly unimportant to the film. (Unnecessary in my opinion, but not overly sexualized.) Plus, they are 20 years old. Not like they are kissing at 12 years old.

However, there was this whole running joke between Hiccup’s friends, who are the comic relief of the movie, that was basically about lust. Two of the guys (Snoutloud and Fishlegs) are in love with Ruffnut and are vying for her attention the whole time. It’s harmless and she ignores them. Then, they meet one of the dragon thieves, Eret and she is immediately in love with him saying things like, “Take me! I’m yours!” and looking at him in slow-mo, watching his biceps move and blowing him kisses, etc.

It was kinda gross.

It was also the perfect opportunity to talk to your kids about the difference between a real relationship like Hiccup and Astrid (who have fun with each other, help each other, work together, etc.) or Hiccup’s parents (we’ll get to them in a minute) and the ridiculousness of Ruffnut’s reaction to how Eret looked instead of who he was.

3. The fighting.

There was lots of fighting. Dragons blowing fire and vikings throwing swords and weapons was about half the movie. Lots and lots of fighting.

And last but not least ***HUGE SPOILER***

4. Death

Hiccup’s dad dies. It was a beautiful sacrificial death in which Stoick gives his life to save Hiccup. He’s honored as a servant-leader who was constantly thinking about others before himself. It’s the perfect opportunity to talk about serving others, giving of yourself, putting others first and even Christ’s sacrifice for us.

But, if death (especially death of a parent) would bother your child, this might not be the movie to see.

Read John 15:12-14 and talk about what Jesus said was the true measure of love.

Now. Why you WILL want to see this movie with your kids.

1. Stoick, Hiccup’s dad.

This guy is a real man. He’s a man worth emulating.

When Stoick discovers that his wife is still alive, she assumes he will be mad at her for leaving him. Instead, Stoick’s first words to her are, “You are as beautiful as the day I lost you.” and from that point on, begins to woo her back to him. Not demanding she come home and be his little wife. No, he sings her a love song, lets her warm up to the idea of being a wife and mother again and treats her as an equal (and even as more knowledgeable) about dragons.

Read Ephesians 5:22-33 and talk about how husbands are to love their wives as much as their own bodies, protecting them and honoring them above everyone. 

2. Trust

In the end, Drago’s bewilderbeast hypnotizes all the dragons, including Toothless, Hiccup’s dragon. Hiccup believes he can get Toothless out of his entrancement and finally (through love and forgiveness) snaps him out of the alpha dragon’s control.

But in order for Toothless and Hiccup to fight the bewilderbeast together, Hiccup places a blindfold on Toothless’ eyes and says, “We’ll have to do this together. As one. Do you trust me?” Hiccup then leads Toothless through the air, helping him to ignore the call of the evil dragon.

This was beautiful! A perfect picture of temptation and not allowing outside forces into your heart and mind. Toothless had to focus and concentrate on the relationship he had with Hiccup so he wouldn’t be swayed.

Read Romans 8:5 and talk about how we need to look to the Holy Spirit inside of us and follow His lead instead of our own desires, or the desires of those around us. How could we listen to the Holy Spirit next time we have something tempting us to do wrong?

Read 2 Corinthians 5:7 and talk about living and walking by faith in God’s Word and promises and not by what we see in front of us. Is there a promise in God’s Word you need to focus on in your heart today–instead of a bad situation you can see with your eyes?

Read parts of John 15 and/or John 17:21 and talk about being one with Jesus and joined to Him. What would it be like to work with Jesus the way Toothless and Hiccup worked together?

3. The Future

Usually, in kids’ movies, there is some misunderstood kid who is different from the rest of his group but everything turns out OK in the end because this kid followed his heart. And as much as I want my kids to be who God wants them to be regardless of what I think, or others think, there is something dangerous about this thinking because it places your desires and emotions as #1 in decision-making. Which, as responsible adults know, is not always the best idea!

Hiccup’s dad wanted Hiccup to take his places as Viking chief. Hiccup didn’t want to because he didn’t “feel like a chief”. When he meets his mom, she thinks Hiccup should stay with her an learn how to care for dragons because “this is who you are”. In the end, Hiccup learns that he’s really both of his parents combined. He can be the chief and protect the dragons. He learns to put others first and care for them (whether they be dragon or human) before himself. And that’s when he finds honor and fulfillment.

Read 1 Peter 5:6 and talk about how true servanthood brings honor. 

Read Jeremiah 29:11 and Ephesians 3:20 talk about how God has plans for us–plans better than we can imagine!

In conclusion

I really enjoyed this movie. I thought it was a genuinely interesting movie with beautiful animation. I thought the lessons of family, honor and servanthood outweighed the fighting and dragon-ness of it. I definitely think you need to weigh the scariness and intensity of it for your kids but overall, I say a yes to this movie!

With that being said, Lydia probably won’t see this movie. She’s not interested in big scary fighting scenes and knows she doesn’t want that stuff in her head or to waste her time on it. I’m not saying she couldn’t handle it. I don’t think she’d run out of the room or have nightmares. I just think it’s not worth it to her. So, it’s not worth it to me to push something like that on her.

So, what are your thoughts on the movie? Did you write about it on your blog? Or do you have some movie reviews/discussion guides on your blog you’d like to share? Maybe you did a Bible-based activity or had God-conversation you had with your kid because of a movie? Tell us about it in the comments OR if it’s on your blog (or you wanna write one quick and get it up!) link it up below!

We’d love to read it–and share it with everyone! I might even add it to my Family Movie Moms Pinterest board!



Don’t forget to check out the God Centered Mom Podcast to hear more of my thoughts (and Heather’s fabulous insights!) about How To Train Your Dragon 2!
ohamanda.com

dragon week see all posts banner

I saw this movie on my own dime. Just in case you were wondering.

Comments

  1. Love it, especially the way husbands are presented.

    Here’s my take on Leadership and Worship as seen in How to Train Your Dragon 2:

    http://www.reelparables.com/dragon-2-leadership/

    http://www.reelparables.com/dragon-2-worship/

  2. Thanks for such great ideas to discuss with my kuds about this movie! We saw it a few weeks ago, and while I liked most of it, I was so disappointed in a few things like the lust (it was such a bad model and sexist too – they would never have a male doing that anymore as comic relief!). I was thinking about making it a one time only movie. Thanks for making it the beginning of a productive discussion and something I’d watch again.

    • Yes, Cyndy! We talked about that exact thing on the podcast–I would hate for my daughter to watch how that girl acted towards the guy. Sadly, I think so much of our media is going that way. Yuck. A one time movie is smart. :)

      a

  3. I personally love this movie. I think kids are exposed to all you have mention above even from Sesame Street. Death should not be hidden from kids as this is a part of live. Whether is a pet or a family member is exist. All kids movies have this one way or another, Bambi, Frozen, Little Mermaid 2, Lion King which by the way I found that to be more gruesome than this movie. The fighting, I think there is more fighting in the power rangers and ninja Turtles and Tom and Jerry than this.This is a beautiful movie that teaches us many things. For once I see a movie that teaches us how to love animals and how they were created and are here for a reason. It teaches us about what a real friendship is. About the scary dragons. I find them and my kids find them enjoyable. There are other cartoons I find scarier on tv. About the This was one of the best kids movies i have seen in a really long time.

  4. I wrote up a review! Although I completely forgot about those “lusty” scenes – need to remember to take notes during the movie next time. I came away with a lot of the same thoughts though – some really great discussion topics! Too bad my little guy (two years old) isn’t quite ready for that! haha Here’s my review…. http://www.simplelifemessylife.com/how-to-train-your-dragon-2-review/

  5. We saw the first How to Train Your Dragon, but we haven’t seen the latest installment yet. Thanks for sharing your honest opinions on it. I wrote about The Lego Movie recently, and I appreciate you opening the link-up to any type of family-friendly movie review! I love hearing what others have to say about media through a Christian parenting lens. In The Lego Movie, the main song “Everything is Awesome” has really opened up some great conversations with my almost-5-year-old. There’s a line that says, “Everything you think or do or say is awesome,” and we got a chance to talk about how that’s not true and the Bible actually instructs us to “take every thought captive.” I love opportunities to have honest conversations like that.

    • Awesome! Can’t wait to read your review. We still haven’t seen it yet. :)

      a

      • We are Lego-crazy around here. It’s a really clever movie, I think. Like how the Toy Story movies had jokes that older kids and grownups could really “get.” I can’t believe you guys haven’t seen it yet, but I hope you like it when you do! Let me know. :)

        • The previews didn’t look good to me b/c it was all pop culture (Batman, Star Wars, etc.) which my kids didn’t really know anyway, And the other part of the preview was him staring at the girl Lego and being in love with her. Then, when everyone saw it and loved it, I figured it must have been quite different from the preview!

          a

          • Hmm. If that’s the case, it might not be your family’s cup of tea — and that’s okay! I love that you thoughtfully discern what is appropriate and would be enjoyable for your kids. :) My son is really into the super heroes and Star Wars characters, so he likes seeing his favorite “guys” all in one movie. I think some of the romantic elements went over his head, but I see them as good opportunities for conversation in the future. And there are so many positive elements that have direct parallels to Biblical principles (like how God calls us special and knowing that He’s got our back can help enable us to do great things — I can do all things through Christ who strengthens me!). I’d hate for you to get stuck watching something that your family wouldn’t appreciate based on my recommendation, so definitely screen it first (maybe from Plugged In’s movie guide?). Although you’re awesome and would probably do that anyway!

Leave a Comment

*